THE COURAGE TO STAY IN THE UNKNOWN

Season 2

Jun 9

Written by Erin Davis

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UNAPOLOGETIC · SEASON 2 / EPISODE 19

THE COURAGE TO STAY IN THE UNKNOWN

WITH STEPH JAGGER

ABOUT THE EPISODE

What happens when the story that once defined your life no longer fits?

In this expansive and deeply human conversation, Erin sits down with author, speaker, and storyteller Steph Jagger to explore identity, leadership, embodiment, creativity, grief, and the courage required to live without easy answers.

Together, they unpack the tension between certainty and emergence, the relationship between mind and body, and why so many systems still reward control over connection. Steph reflects on midlife, artistry, nervous systems, softness, rebellion, and the importance of developing the capacity to stay present in complexity rather than rushing toward resolution.

This episode is an invitation to slow down, listen differently, and reconsider what leadership might look like when we stop performing certainty and start trusting the unfolding.

A conversation about:

authenticity and self-trust
nervous systems and emotional awareness
identity, belonging, and internal safety
creativity, artistry, and imagination
leadership beyond control structures
softness, grief, and resilience
what it means to become fully alive

This episode won’t give you easy answers.

But it may leave you asking better questions.

MEET THE GUEST

Steph Jagger is an author, coach, writing mentor, and world-record-breaking athlete whose work explores self-discovery, personal transformation, and the connections between identity, memory, and belonging. With more than a decade of coaching experience, she helps individuals reconnect with themselves, navigate life's transitions, and find greater meaning and authenticity in their personal journeys.

Steph is the author of two memoirs, Unbound: A Story of Snow and Self-Discovery, inspired by her record-setting year of skiing, and Everything Left to Remember, which chronicles a transformative road trip with her mother following an Alzheimer's diagnosis. Her writing has been translated into six languages and featured in publications including Outside Magazine, Yoga Journal, and Maria Shriver's Sunday Paper. Through her writing, speaking, and coaching, Steph encourages others to embrace change, explore their stories, and rediscover what matters most.

Read Steph’s Work:
Unbound, A Story of Snow and Self-Discovery

Everything Left to Remember: My Mother, Our Memories, and a Journey Through the Rocky Mountains

Website: https://www.stephjagger.com/

Connect with Steph: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniejagger/